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Geek Angst [Feb. 16th, 2009|01:52 pm]
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If Ubuntu is so insanely great, why do I always end up wanting to develop a time machine to go back in time and kill all the project leads grandparents in grisly fashions?

Backstory: I was trying to install it (8.10) on a little MSI Wind nettop box. I got it installed and it ended up stuttering horribly on video. I realized once again that Ubuntu does heinous amounts of handholding for Xorg configuration, which is great if everything works perfectly, and if it doesn't it drops on the floor. If I wanted to manually edit the xorg.conf from scratch I'd install fucking Slackware. No, I lie, Slackware at least had a configuration script last time I used it. sax2 (from SuSE) is so far superior in every imaginable way I have trouble comprehending what the Ubuntu folks are smoking.

Lame: You can map a network drive with their nice clicky tool! Yeah! Unless you use NFS. *blink* *blink* Huh? You're telling me you can map a drive with SSH or HTTP, but not NFS? Is this UNIX or kindergarten land?

Lamer still: Changing from DHCP to manual IP config doesn't fucking work. At all. Oh sure, it says it does. It lets you change the little boxes and then later when you come back it's changed them back to DHCP.

Plus points: It did recognize all the sound and network hardware, and the monitor.

[User Picture]From: ouij
2009-02-16 10:58 pm (UTC)
First: SaX was (at least at the time that Ubuntu dropped) proprietary, as I recall.

Second: most ubuntu users are in kindergarten land. UNIX users are presumed not to care about clicky tools.

Third: I haven't had much networking drama.

The whole reason Ubuntu is so great is that it was Debian without the ridiculously long lead times. I was particularly attracted to Ubuntu because it was the most accessible distro with sane package-management in 2004.

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[User Picture]From: zuvembi
2009-02-17 12:35 am (UTC)
Sax: Okay, I know they couldn't use it. And they've got this really nice auto-discovery configuration thing. Which is great when it works. And if it doesn't you're just fucked. How does that make sense? Why isn't there a mode or tool to tell it which chipset to use?

Clicky tools: Eh, I wouldn't be using Ubuntu except Boxee is available through it and I thought I'd try that. I like clicky tools, if they work.

Networking: The tool just doesn't bloody appear to work. It boggles me it does. I'm not going to bother figuring out what's going on, I've already downloaded a different distributions ISO to load up.

I know it's really my own fault. I keep trying Ubuntu, and it's always something like this that drives me batty.
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[User Picture]From: ouij
2009-02-17 08:53 pm (UTC)
Networking: if you turn it off "roaming" you should be able to get it to bend to your will. The default assumes you're lugging a notebook and promiscuously connecting to wlans.
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[User Picture]From: zuvembi
2009-02-26 01:24 am (UTC)
I'll give that a go the next time I try and install Ubuntu on something. I think part of my problem is the hardware is just dodgy. I think I'm returning it and building something saner.
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[User Picture]From: obnox
2009-02-20 01:38 am (UTC)
I didn't have any problems with ubuntu, but I don't muck around like some people I could mention.
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[User Picture]From: zuvembi
2009-02-26 01:25 am (UTC)
I have no idea what you could be talking about. :-P
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